Comments on: Hell http://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/ Life. Belief. Et cetera. Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:48:39 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: brushymyboy http://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-16 brushymyboy Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:58:09 +0000 https://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-16 I think you might still be trying to judge who is righteous/going to heaven/saved by following your line of comments. What does it take to be justified before God? The heaven/hell argument is meaningless without first assuming or establishing that God is both in authority to judge and has established the standard by which to judge. I've got to run, but i'll comment or post later. I think you might still be trying to judge who is righteous/going to heaven/saved by following your line of comments. What does it take to be justified before God? The heaven/hell argument is meaningless without first assuming or establishing that God is both in authority to judge and has established the standard by which to judge. I’ve got to run, but i’ll comment or post later.

]]> By: Keith http://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-14 Keith Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:56:12 +0000 https://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-14 It strikes me that the name of this blog is relevant here. My basic line, contra McLaren, is that, although the universalist's question may not be the single most important question we might ask, it is nonetheless a question worth asking -- An appropriate stance for fans of "a lot of questions"! It strikes me that the name of this blog is relevant here. My basic line, contra McLaren, is that, although the universalist’s question may not be the single most important question we might ask, it is nonetheless a question worth asking — An appropriate stance for fans of “a lot of questions”!

]]> By: Keith DeRose http://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-13 Keith DeRose Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:45:37 +0000 https://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-13 <i>This is where I really agree with McLaren. I think the question of hell is the wrong question to be asking.</i> I disagree. In fact, addressing this line of thought coming from McLaren was the topic of the first of my recent posts on universalism, "The Problem with Universalism?", at: http://www.generousorthodoxy.net/thinktank/2006/05/the_problem_wit.html Peace, KDR This is where I really agree with McLaren. I think the question of hell is the wrong question to be asking.

I disagree. In fact, addressing this line of thought coming from McLaren was the topic of the first of my recent posts on universalism, “The Problem with Universalism?”, at:
http://www.generousorthodoxy.net/thinktank/2006/05/the_problem_wit.html

Peace,
KDR

]]> By: Russell http://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-10 Russell Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:43:52 +0000 https://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-10 Great point about Gandhi. Rob Bell really opened my eyes to finding beauty outside Christendom and claiming the Christ that can be found in it. Steaming Bean, this afternoon? Great point about Gandhi. Rob Bell really opened my eyes to finding beauty outside Christendom and claiming the Christ that can be found in it.

Steaming Bean, this afternoon?

]]> By: mshedden http://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-8 mshedden Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:44:37 +0000 https://rduren.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/hell/#comment-8 This is where I really agree with McLaren. I think the question of hell is the wrong question to be asking. His chapter in the book Generous Orthodoxy really deals with the idea of how does christianity be come more then getting people into heaven. Dallas Willard does a great job of showing this from an exculivist position. My problem is arrogance it takes from us to think God is impressed by a prayer. That is why I feel the same as K when he says if other people are going to hell so must I. I have met to many non-christians, (not mention Ghandi) who are trying to live the way of Christ without knowing it, or without being a Christian, and they are doing a better job at it then me, to be impressed enough by myself that I should make to heaven an them not. NT Wright recently said God does not accept us as we are, he transforms us as we are. But the real question is how do we regain the abrahamic view of being blessed. We know are blessed (I will bless you... I will bless your nation) but for get the second half (So you can be a blessing to other...so you can bless the world). Oh well. Let's do coffee sometime soon. This is where I really agree with McLaren. I think the question of hell is the wrong question to be asking. His chapter in the book Generous Orthodoxy really deals with the idea of how does christianity be come more then getting people into heaven. Dallas Willard does a great job of showing this from an exculivist position. My problem is arrogance it takes from us to think God is impressed by a prayer. That is why I feel the same as K when he says if other people are going to hell so must I. I have met to many non-christians, (not mention Ghandi) who are trying to live the way of Christ without knowing it, or without being a Christian, and they are doing a better job at it then me, to be impressed enough by myself that I should make to heaven an them not. NT Wright recently said God does not accept us as we are, he transforms us as we are.
But the real question is how do we regain the abrahamic view of being blessed. We know are blessed (I will bless you… I will bless your nation) but for get the second half (So you can be a blessing to other…so you can bless the world).
Oh well. Let’s do coffee sometime soon.

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